Unlike Eliezer ben Dordai, who could buy oilam haba in a moment, Ed Koch caused real damage to many Jews, and he did not ask for mechila in their lifetimes. As for the date coincidence, he and Daniel Pearl only expressed their Judaism when it was too late. That is why the coincidence is the secular date!
Koch was the type of Democrat I could have a conversation with. His endorsement of Bush and McCain attests to his love of country and ahavat yisrael, and I enjoyed his political commentary and desire to stamp out corruption in local politics. Be kitzur, American Reform in the s totally stopped any ritual observance see the Pittsburgh Platform of , since they denied the binding nature of mitzvot.
Certainly, they used certain aesthetics which were not problematic in the sanctuary like Geneva robes, choirs, vernacular, learned sermons, etc. Hebrew Union College employs Prof.
Emanu-El is a holdout of the olden days resisting this otherwise positive development, and therefore is problematic. There could be more to the story. All the US had unprecented crime since then. It got even worse under Dinkins. To all above posters. It was not uncommon in Europe to have a section partitioned off from a non-jewish cemetery to be used solely for Jews.
Mr Koch consulted with Rabbonim and aside from fencing off his area he also acquired the rights for a gate into the cemetery near his plot to be known as the Jewish gate and only Jewish funeral processions will go through it.
While myself and I am assuming most posters we should all live long would not want such a resting place, before people say that he is being buried in contradiction to Halacha at least check with a Rabbi for clarification if what he did was okay It actually may be kosher.
Regarding temple emanuel for the services and many of his liberal policies including an even if Halachichally kosher definitely not normative burial : A Jew who grew up in early — mid s America without true formal education is a true tinok shenishbar you cannot judge him because of that. Aside from lack of knowledge there was also a constant undercurrent of bashing orthodoxy as something for the old world. Does anyone have Shiva details? Is there a Mishna listing to sign up? Has anyone been assigned to recite Kaddish for the upcoming 11 months?
Fortunately, Ed Koch missed the problematic Johrzeit timing just by 10 days [meaning that once Adar arrives and would have been Niftar therein, big problem with scheduling of Johrzeit in a leap year]. I agree with abcd2. There have many Jews buried together with Christians in nondenominational cemeteries.
All you have to do is look at graves in France of the soldiers who died on D Day and see the Stars of David scattered among the crosses. There was an unfourtunate storyof a yid whose non jewish wife was only prepared to allow a jewish burial if she would eventually be interred adjacent to him. They say that a non-Jewish spouse can be buried alongside the Jewish spouse, as long as there is a wall 10 tefachim high or a path 4 amot wide separating the non-Jew from Jewish graves.
His funeral was held Feb. President Bill Clinton were among those who eulogized the three-term mayor who helped New York rebound from fiscal troubles in the s. Koch remained a visible icon of the city. The rector took Koch on a tour of the grounds and showed him where his grave would be in the non-denominational cemetery on a rise overlooking Amsterdam Avenue. Kochtold the New York Times in that the purchase had been a good investment because the stock market, unlike the price of cemetery space, had since gone down.
Sign in Join. Sign in. Log into your account. Sign up. Password recovery. Forgot your password? Get help. Create an account. The Yeshiva World. This topic has 40 replies, 29 voices, and was last updated 8 years, 9 months ago by the shtarke. Viewing 41 posts - 1 through 41 of 41 total. February 1, pm at pm Ferd Participant. What a Ferd! It also includes a Jewish prayer and the epitaph he wrote after his stroke:.
DaMoshe Participant. His Mother was buried as a jew, his father was buried as a jew, and he is buried as a christian. Mammele Participant. WIY Member. Mammele If any part of it is unkosher ie. Koch, the voluble three-term mayor who helped bring New York back from the brink of fiscal ruin in the s and came to embody the city with his wry, outspoken style, died on Friday at the age of Koch, 88, who called himself a secular Jew, died Feb.
His funeral was held Feb. President Bill Clinton were among those who eulogized the three-term mayor who helped New York rebound from fiscal troubles in the s. Koch remained a visible icon of the city. The Rev. The rector took Koch on a tour of the grounds and showed him where his grave would be in the non-denominational cemetery on a rise overlooking Amsterdam Avenue.
New Jersey 17 mins ago. Long Island 24 mins ago. In , Koch revealed he had bought the plot at Trinity so that he could remain in his beloved borough for eternity.
His former chief of staff, Diane Coffey, said at his funeral that he had begun preparing for his death in the s.
The marker did not have the birth date engraved on it when Koch was buried.
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